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Old 10-28-2004
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LOST ? Episode 6
?If You Need Me?


I use dialogue to title my columns and I jot many down during the first showing. Then I have to decide which to use. This particular episode dealt with the memories of Sun and what brought her to the island. However, the piece of dialogue I used was not from her relived experience, but something Jack says to Kate, but which all of the survivors should be aware of as the days and weeks passes.

As I said the show this week was mainly about Sun, the Korean wife of Jin. From the short spurts of memory from her, we find that Jin who seemed to be a waiter at the time courted her. She is from a wealthy family, but the money was not clearly delineated, i.e. manufacturer, inherited, or criminal. Somehow, I sensed there was not a car or TV-set in their background. Jin tells Sun that he must ask permission of her father to marry here even though she wants to elope. She tells him he clearly does not know her father. However, he gives her a beautiful flower. This memory is spurred on by watching her husband catch a fish with his hands and kill the fish, by slamming it on a piece of metal. Suddenly Jin attacks Michael and Sayid rushes to stop him from killing him by drowning. He and Sawyer use 'the handcuffs? to lock Jin into one place.

Later, Sun remembers Jin telling her that he did get permission to marry, but that he had to work for her father for two years. It?s only temporary he tells her, and gives her a ring that she says they can?t afford. After they marry, Jin buys her a puppy because she needed a companion. (He works long hours.) She reminds him that he once gave her a flower, which she obviously cherished. Months later, (I know this because the dog is grown up) he comes home bloody and while washing up, she asks him just what he does for her father. He doesn?t tell her, but says, ?I do it for us.? As time passes, Sun knows she has to leave her husband. He has become abusive in some way which is not delineated other than he has a bad temper. She makes plans with a woman who is going to help her. Evidently, it is supposed to happen at the airport at 11:15. When they arrive at the airport, Jack?s voice is heard in the background as Jin waits in line. Sun stands a short distance away. She looks at the clock. It says 11:15. She looks past that out to the street where a black sedan waits?for her. She looks at Jin, who pulls a flower out from his pocket, grinning. Tearfully, she walks to him and he gives her the flower. She stays and doesn?t run. Interestingly enough I think they were on vacation...maybe.

Later Sun finds Michael chopping wood. She speaks to him in English, causing him to stare in astonishment at her. Of course, he doesn?t know anything about her background. However, she tells him why Jin attacked him. It was because of the watch he found. Evidently, it belonged to her father. Michael finds Jin, tells him to stay away from him and Walt. He uses the ax to cut off the handcuffs. (Well, guess no one else is going to be handcuffed in the series, not unless welding equipment magically appears.)

In the meantime, Jack and Kate who is helping Jack pack his backpack, have been ?verbally copulating? as Charlie describes their conversation. They with Locke, and Charlie, head off into the jungle to get water from the place Jack found while thinking about his recent past. When they arrive, Charlie accidentally stands on a beehive. Locke tells him not to move while they find something to cover it. Charlie tells them he has an irrational fear of bees. The beehive breaks when Charlie tries to slap them away from his face. The bees terrorize Charlie and the others. Kate and Jack run for the waterfall, tearing off their shirts. Locke goes off in another direction, as does Charlie.

As Jack and Kate enter the cave behind the fall, Kate discovers two boney corpses. CSI is not around to do the autopsies?so they have to guess about how long they were dead. Jack figures at least forty to sixty years. He identifies one as a man and the other as a woman. Kate wants to know where they came from and Jack pulls a bag from the man?s clothing. Inside it he finds two smooth pebbles (?), one is black and the other white. Locke and Charles join them and Locke, with tongue in cheek says they now have their own Adam and Eve.

They fill the bottles of water. They leave Charlie and Locke to go through the luggage that was at the spot they head back to the beach. When they stop to rest, Jack tells Kate that he thinks the group should camp out in the cave, near the water?and that packing a half gallon of water per person is a lot of work. Kate says he hasn?t convinced her yet. (Oh darn, trouble between heroes)

When they get to the beach, Jack starts talking to people. Earlier when Jack tells Sayid about camping at the caves, he doesn?t think it?s a good idea since how was anyone to find them if someone wasn?t at the beach. Sawyer finds Kate and makes a pass, which she ignores. He calls her ?Freckles?. He wants to know what she is going to do. She doesn?t answer him. Sometime later, Jack finds Kate staring out to sea. He thinks she?s going with them, but she says, ?I can?t just dig in.? He asks, ?How did you get this way? What did you do?? She tells him he lost his chance to find out. (Probably while her captor was dying.) She tells him she is staying at the beach.

Jack tells her that she should, but then, ?if you need me, you know where to find me,?
As he walks off, she says quietly, ?and you know where to find me.?

Now to Locke and Charlie: The bees have stung them both and Charlie looks particularly bad. (Good make-up job by the staff.) However they are searching for the medical supplies (drugs in particular says Jack) and Charlie decides to take a pee, or rather a drug break. Locke follows him and tells him he knows about Drive Shaft, Charlie?s band. He?s a fan, even if he?s over forty. He finds out that Charlie was in love with his guitar and Locke tells him he?ll see his guitar again.

?How much do you want your guitar??
?More than you know,? answers Charlie.

Minutes later, Charlie is headed in the jungle to take get a hit. Locke stops him and tells Charlie he will be going thru withdrawals soon and it won?t be pretty. He asks Charlie which he prefers the drugs or the guitar. Charlie says his guitar. Locke says he has to have faith. ?Then you have to give the island something.? Charlie hands over his drugs. ?Look up,? says Locke. Charlie thinks he wants him to pray, but Locke insists that he look up. Charlie does and sees the guitar in its case, hanging on a tree. The island gave him his wish.

Jack brings those who want to come to the caves. Included in the group are Sun, Jin, Hurley, and a few others. They sit about a fire listening to Charlie play and sing his guitar. The song is ?Look around you is this where you want to be.? (If it isn?t the name of the song, it should be.)

COMMENTS:
In the scene with Sawyer and Kate, he uses the phrase ?truth be told? and ?trust me?. Now I heard ?trust me? so many times in Alias and several times already in this show I?m beginning to include in my own vocabulary.
Truth be told is an oddity because my computer grammar check says it should read "Truth is told" - funny.


DISCUSS:
Jack says the corpses are forty to sixty years old, but the message some of them heard was sixteen. So were there TWO groups lost on the island? If so, is the island itself a monster that entices groups of people to it? -- and polar bears?

Will the island continue to ?give? to the passengers what they truly want, if in return the passenger in question gives ?it? something?

Jack?s dad was supposed to be in a coffin that he found empty. Where did his father's body go?

What will happen to those left on the beach? Do you think they might have second thoughts when a few more days pass?

Why do you think Kate is "that way?"

We heard a monster on the first episode and second, but nothing since. Is there some sort of monster on the island? If so, what do you think it is.

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Well...since nobody else has had anything to say, I do!

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Jack says the corpses are forty to sixty years old, but the message some of them heard was sixteen. So were there TWO groups lost on the island? If so, is the island itself a monster that entices groups of people to it? -- and polar bears?
It certainly seems that the island takes people evry, say, 20 odd years. Ships were big then for travelling...did it lure ships as well? Strange thing, this island.

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Will the island continue to ?give? to the passengers what they truly want, if in return the passenger in question gives ?it? something?
Something Locke saw that time he was in the jungle...he knows all of this. What is going on here. And in terms of getting what you want for giving something back...the watch which was Jins father's...that was interesting that he got that back in the manner that he did.

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Jack?s dad was supposed to be in a coffin that he found empty. Where did his father's body go?
That creeped the hell out of me last week! Where did the body go! Is that something that Jack wanted, after he got his closure? Will there be more to come? (and no answering by anyone!)

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What will happen to those left on the beach? Do you think they might have second thoughts when a few more days pass?
Perhaps they will give in, maybe not. But they could also work it that they send 2 or 3 people to the beach to keep the fire going for that day, as their contribution. They could rotate even. *giggles* Or they could ask the island!

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Why do you think Kate is "that way?"
Because JJ wants us to go out of our minds trying to figure out what she did, and he just won't drop the subject or give us a chance to think about anything else! Why is JJ "this way", truth be told...

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We heard a monster on the first episode and second, but nothing since. Is there some sort of monster on the island? If so, what do you think it is.
I'm not sure of the answer to this question...is it really a monster or is it shadows of Lord of the Flies, where the 'beast' isn't really a beast at all, but their manifestations of their own evil? Hmmm...


On my own little track...John Locke (the name of our beloved colonel) is also the name of a great British philosopher, whose work is characterised by the oppostion to authoritarianism. Coincidence?
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